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Exclusive: US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources
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WASHINGTON, Feb 21 (Reuters) - U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said.

Starlink provides crucial internet connectivity to war-torn Ukraine and its military.

The issue was raised again on Thursday during meetings between Keith Kellogg, the U.S. special Ukraine envoy, and Zelenskiy, said one of the sources, who was briefed on the talks.

During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the service if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations.

"Ukraine runs on Starlink. They consider it their North Star," said the source. "Losing Starlink ... would be a massive blow."

Zelenskiy has rejected demands from President Donald Trump's administration for $500 billion in mineral wealth from Ukraine to repay Washington for wartime aid, saying the U.S. has offered no specific security guarantees.

On Friday, the Ukrainian president said the U.S. and Ukrainian teams were working on an agreement and Trump said he expects a deal will be signed soon.

Musk rushed thousands of Starlink terminals to Ukraine to replace communications services destroyed by Russia after its February 2022 invasion. Hailed as a hero in Ukraine, Musk later curtailed access at least once before in the fall of 2022 as he became more critical of Kyiv's handling of the war.

U.S. lawmakers are divided over Trump's efforts to find a quick end to the Ukraine war and some have raised questions about Musk's rapid-fire efforts to cull thousands of federal workers and shut down Federal agencies.

Melinda Haring, a senior fellow with the Atlantic Council, said Starlink was essential for Ukraine’s operation of drones, a key pillar of its military strategy.

“Losing Starlink would be a game changer,” Haring said, noting that Ukraine was now at 1:1 parity with Russia in terms of drone usage and artillery shells. Ukraine has a wide range of different drone capabilities, ranging from sea drones and surveillance drones to long-range unmanned aerial vehicles.

The Ukrainian embassy in Washington, the White House and the U.S. Department of Defense did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
SpaceX, which operates Starlink, also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Last fall, Ukraine floated the idea of opening its critical minerals to investment by allies. This was part of a "victory plan" that sought to put it in the strongest position for talks and force Moscow to the table.

Trump has embraced the idea, saying he wants Ukraine to supply the U.S. with rare earths and other minerals in return for financially supporting its war effort.

Zelenskiy rejected a detailed U.S. proposal last week that would have seen Washington and U.S. firms receiving 50% of Ukraine's critical minerals, which include graphite, uranium, titanium and lithium, a key component in electric car batteries.

Since then a rift has emerged between the leaders, with Trump denouncing Zelenskiy as "a dictator without elections" on Wednesday after Zelenskiy said Trump was trapped in a Russian disinformation bubble, a response to the U.S. president suggesting Ukraine started the war.
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Donald J. Trump arremete contra Zelensky y le llama dictador
vuelvo y repito, a trumpcito ya se le ven las costuras del caballo de troya que es,

fíjate bien, se pone en contra de ucrania para ponerse a favor del faro, cuando todos sabemos quien es ucrania y quien es el faro y cuales son los orígenes del conflicto y quien empezó primero.

a europa no le conviene para nada que eeuu se ponga en contra de ucrania (y peor ponerse a favor del faro) por razones ya sabidas y explicadas cientos de veces, sobre la implicaciones que acarrearía para occidente, la anexión de ucrania al faro.

y para esto no hace falta ser un expertologo de cualquiervainología.....
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Axio escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 8:16 am
Donald J. Trump arremete contra Zelensky y le llama dictador
vuelvo y repito, a trumpcito ya se le ven las costuras del caballo de troya que es,

fíjate bien, se pone en contra de ucrania para ponerse a favor del faro, cuando todos sabemos quien es ucrania y quien es el faro y cuales son los orígenes del conflicto y quien empezó primero.

a europa no le conviene para nada que eeuu se ponga en contra de ucrania (y peor ponerse a favor del faro) por razones ya sabidas y explicadas cientos de veces, sobre la implicaciones que acarrearía para occidente, la anexión de ucrania al faro.

y para esto no hace falta ser un expertologo de cualquiervainología.....
Los libertarios Ron Paul y Rand Paul están mejor enterados que tú de qué va toda la operación de lavado de dinero en Ucrania:

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verdinegro escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 8:24 am
Axio escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 8:16 am
Donald J. Trump arremete contra Zelensky y le llama dictador
vuelvo y repito, a trumpcito ya se le ven las costuras del caballo de troya que es,

fíjate bien, se pone en contra de ucrania para ponerse a favor del faro, cuando todos sabemos quien es ucrania y quien es el faro y cuales son los orígenes del conflicto y quien empezó primero.

a europa no le conviene para nada que eeuu se ponga en contra de ucrania (y peor ponerse a favor del faro) por razones ya sabidas y explicadas cientos de veces, sobre la implicaciones que acarrearía para occidente, la anexión de ucrania al faro.

y para esto no hace falta ser un expertologo de cualquiervainología.....
Los libertarios Ron Paul y Rand Paul están mejor enterados que tú de qué va toda la operación de lavado de dinero en Ucrania:

si eso es cierto, entonces.... ¡peor todavía la vaina!

porque quiere decir, que el faro es mas batequebrado de lo que aparenta ser, ya que, si ucrania no destinó los fondos para la guerra, entonces nunca tuvo armas nuevas para defenderse o adentrarse en territorio faroliense y que todo esto es una farsa iniciada por el faro donde el faro es quien queda mal parado, por perder una invasión que se inventó para justificar esta lavadora.

porque si sabes, que si lo de ucrania es una lavadora, el faro tiene que necesariamente estar involucrado si o si...... o a menos que sean tan inútiles que no sepan ni lanzar un fosforitos....


aunque es preferible que la razón sea la primera, para que no den tanta vergüenza.
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Axio escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 8:51 am porque quiere decir, que el faro es mas batequebrado de lo que aparenta ser, ya que, si ucrania no destinó los fondos para la guerra, entonces nunca tuvo armas nuevas para defenderse o adentrarse en territorio faroliense y que todo esto es una farsa iniciada por el faro donde el faro es quien queda mal parado, por perder una invasión que se inventó para justificar esta lavadora.

porque si sabes, que si lo de ucrania es una lavadora, el faro tiene que necesariamente estar involucrado si o si...... o a menos que sean tan inútiles que no sepan ni lanzar un fosforitos....
Rusia no está en guerra con Ucrania. Rusia no ha hecho con Ucrania lo que hizo con Chechenia.
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Cambio de discurso...

Ahora para la Adm. Trump...Zelensky es un valiente líder...
Kellogg, que llegó a Kiev el miércoles, no ha dudado en hablar del "valiente" presidente europeo y de unas "conversaciones extensas y positivas". Sus palabras cobran especial significado después de que su jefe, Donald Trump, calificase a Zelenski de "dictador" y le acusara de ser culpable del comienzo de la guerra, mientras en paralelo negocia con Rusia.

Tanto el enviado americano como el presidente ucraniano han dado cuenta de su encuentro en las redes sociales. Primero era Zelenski quien celebraba una reunión que "nos devolvió la esperanza". "Necesitamos acuerdos sólidos con los Estados Unidos [...] He dado instrucciones a mi equipo para que trabaje con rapidez y mucha sensatez", apuntaba en su cuenta de X.
https://www.huffingtonpost.es/global/el ... trump.html

A los trumpistas los cargan vueltos locos...bailando al son que le tocan...pero sin ritmo alguno... :lol:
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Aleph escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:03 pm Cambio de discurso...

Ahora para la Adm. Trump...Zelensky es un valiente líder...
El Huffington Post es como decir VTV.

No hay cambio de nada. Ucrania se ha comportado como meretriz que actúa indignada porque le dicen que afloje. Los gringos quieren sus tierras raras y Rusia quiere su tierra sagrada.

El payaso maricón de Zelensky no tiene dignidad.
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verdinegro escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:19 pm
Aleph escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:03 pm Cambio de discurso...

Ahora para la Adm. Trump...Zelensky es un valiente líder...
El Huffington Post es como decir VTV.

No hay cambio de nada. Ucrania se ha comportado como meretriz que actúa indignada porque le dicen que afloje. Los gringos quieren sus tierras raras y Rusia quiere su tierra sagrada.

El payaso maricón de Zelensky no tiene dignidad.
No les quedó mas remedio que moderar el discurso...

"Cerré los ojos, los abrí. Entonces vi el Aleph". JLB.
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Aleph escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:26 pm
verdinegro escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:19 pm
Aleph escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:03 pm Cambio de discurso...

Ahora para la Adm. Trump...Zelensky es un valiente líder...
El Huffington Post es como decir VTV.

No hay cambio de nada. Ucrania se ha comportado como meretriz que actúa indignada porque le dicen que afloje. Los gringos quieren sus tierras raras y Rusia quiere su tierra sagrada.

El payaso maricón de Zelensky no tiene dignidad.
No les quedó mas remedio que moderar el discurso...
La administración Trump no impone un discurso a sus voceros.

Igual Zelensky va a hacer algo que ofenda nuevamente a Trump. Zelensky es judío y seguirá de pedigüeño dando lástima por la vida.
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verdinegro escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:33 pm
Aleph escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:26 pm
verdinegro escribió: Sab Feb 22, 2025 1:19 pm

El Huffington Post es como decir VTV.

No hay cambio de nada. Ucrania se ha comportado como meretriz que actúa indignada porque le dicen que afloje. Los gringos quieren sus tierras raras y Rusia quiere su tierra sagrada.

El payaso maricón de Zelensky no tiene dignidad.
No les quedó mas remedio que moderar el discurso...
La administración Trump no impone un discurso a sus voceros.

Igual Zelensky va a hacer algo que ofenda nuevamente a Trump. Zelensky es judío y seguirá de pedigüeño dando lástima por la vida.
Veremos...

No hay que olvidar que Trump es el rey del recule...por cierto, lo acaba de hacer con Gaza...
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Donald Trump announces second round of Ukraine peace talks with Russian diplomats
https://www.euronews.com/2025/02/22/don ... -diplomats

The first round of negotiations in Riyadh on Tuesday prompted European allies to rally around Volodymyr Zelenskyy, nervous about Trump's perceived pivot to Moscow and fears that talks would take place without Ukraine's direct involvement and favour Russia.

US President Donald Trump has announced a new phase of Ukraine war ceasefire negotiations between American and Russian delegations in a statement published by the public service network, C-Span.

Trump said the talks would take place in the Saudi capital Riyadh on 25 February, a week after the first round which took place in the same city on Tuesday.

After the meeting, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the two sides had broadly agreed to pursue three goals: to restore staffing at their respective embassies in Washington and Moscow; to create a high-level team to support Ukraine peace talks; and to explore closer relations and economic cooperation.

He stressed, however, that the talks, which were attended by his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov and other senior Russian officials, marked the beginning of a conversation and more work needs to be done.

Lavrov hailed the meeting as "very useful."

No Ukrainian officials were present, which came as the country is slowly losing ground against more numerous Russian troops, nearly three years after Moscow launched an all-out invasion of its smaller neighbour.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said his country would not accept any outcome from the talks since Kyiv didn’t take part and he postponed his own trip to Saudi Arabia scheduled for last Wednesday.

European allies have also expressed dismay that they are being sidelined.

Trump-Putin summit

Meanwhile, Russia's deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov has said that preparations are under way for a face-to-face meeting between Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, marking a dramatic shift away from Western isolation of Moscow over its war in Ukraine.

Speaking to Russian state media, Ryabkov said a possible Trump-Putin summit could involve broad talks on global issues and not just the war in Ukraine.

"The question is about starting to move towards normalising relations between our countries, finding ways to resolve the most acute and potentially very, very dangerous situations, of which there are many, Ukraine among them," he said.

But he said efforts to organise such a meeting are at an early stage and that making it happen will require "the most intensive preparatory work."

That first round of peace negotiations prompted European allies to rally around Zelenskyy, nervous about Trump's perceived pivot to Moscow and fears that peace negotiations would take place without Ukraine's direct involvement and favour Russia.

On Friday, Trump appeared to walk back his earlier comments that falsely blamed Kyiv for starting the war but insisted that Zelenskyy and former President Joe Biden should have done more to come to terms with Putin.

"Russia attacked, but they shouldn't have let him attack," he said during a radio interview with Brian Kilmeade of Fox News, referring to the Russian leader.
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Lo dicho. Zelensky defraudó nuevamente y se entiende que Trump esté visiblemente molesto.



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Habla Peter Hitchens:



The moronic Ukraine war has done nothing but harm – so why are Europe’s leaders intent on keeping it going?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... urope.html

So, does anyone want to buy a used war, and take it over?

I can’t think why they would do so. You might as well rush to obtain an unexploded bomb, or a leaking canister of some horrible virus.

Whatever has come over the leaders of Europe, jostling to keep the Ukraine war going when it might at last be ending? This moronic, needless conflict has done this continent nothing but harm.

As an event, it is horrible, a hellish panorama of innocent people shivering without electricity in half-ruined cities, broken homes, broken hearts and broken bodies, hospitals crammed with maimed soldiers, families staring quietly into space remembering when they had a father, brother or son.

And even now press-gangs still roam the streets trying to drag more men off to a war they know is lost.

And yet I doubt whether one person in 10,000 can work out why it happened, while nobody at all can point to any good it has done or could ever have done.

I have said before that the Ukraine war was not even in the interests of the USA, which worked so hard for so long to bring it about.

Like the equally bird-brained Iraq invasion, it was the desire of a militant foreign policy faction in Washington DC, inspired by the anti-Russian ultra-hawk Paul Wolfowitz and given impetus by the absurd President George W. Bush.

Bush is possibly the stupidest person to hold high office in all human history.

Of course, such people are bound to exist, but the rest of us do not need to listen to them.

I greatly dislike Donald Trump, and think some of his public statements actively crazy, but if he is prepared to dump the Wolfowitz doctrine and stop trying to make war in Europe, I’m prepared to give him some credit.

For years now I have been arguing here almost alone, against a storm of abuse and slander, mainly composed of dingbat claims that I am a Russian agent.

I warned in 2012, in a dispatch from Sevastopol in the Crimea, and from Donetsk in the Donbas, that petty Ukrainian nationalist spite against Ukraine’s Russian-speaking citizens, combined with threats to end Russian military rights in Sevastopol, were bound to lead to trouble.

I have said for many years that the West will gain nothing by trying to push its Nato military alliance up to the borders of Russia, a view also held by some impeccably loyal Western diplomats, academics and political figures.


No serious state in human history has put up with this sort of thing. England spent much of the Middle Ages fighting to frustrate French alliances with Scotland.

Moscow’s link with Cuba led first to a CIA invasion of that island and then to the 1962 missile crisis, which nearly ended the world. Why, the Americans even objected to Britain having an alliance with Japan in the Pacific, which they viewed as their lake, and they forced us to break off that treaty in 1923.

Sure, we had the ‘right’ to resist this blackmail, but we also had the sense to give in to it. The idea that the USA is a global fairy godmother, smilingly showering its friends with benefits, is and always has been piffle.

It is a hard-hearted great power that pursues its interests with ferocity and ruthlessness, and would cheerfully have gone to war with us if necessary.

I was right about Ukraine. The war I feared came to pass. It was nothing to do with a fictional desire by Russia to sweep westwards across Europe. Russia lacks the strength to do this, and Putin knows it.

Yes, incessantly poking Russia in the eye did not justify Vladimir Putin’s invasion. On the contrary, it was a stupid mistake as well as a barbarous act. But it provoked it. And then what?

I was right, too, that the USA used Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. A direct war between US and Russian forces could easily lead to a nuclear confrontation. But if the USA’s work was done under Ukrainian flags, that was not a risk. Yet Ukraine, even helped by huge piles of money and munitions, could not defeat Russia.

So, goodbye Kiev. All those people who used to tell me I was ‘denying Ukraine’s agency’ in the war can now see that the war always belonged to Uncle Sam, and Ukraine had no agency.

Donald Trump is trying to extract America from yet another foreign policy mess because it turned out to be pointless, as these adventures so often are.

It keeps happening, going back to Vietnam, but also to Afghanistan and Iraq. The Americans roar in like a hurricane, and depart like morning mist.

They don’t stay when it no longer suits them. Those who were their loyal allies in those countries will be lucky if they get a helicopter ride out.

Mr Trump can see that President Zelensky can’t agree to peace without being overthrown, so they have bypassed him. In the brilliant novel about Putin, The Wizard Of The Kremlin, this is foretold.

A Russian character (based on a real person) is asked about Moscow’s view of Ukraine.

He sneers: ‘What we’re aiming for is not conquest but chaos. If you make the mistake of trusting the West, that’s how it always ends. The West drops you at the first bump in the road, and you’re left all on your own to deal with a demolished country.’

President Trump has hit that bump in the road. He has looked at the balance sheet of the Ukraine war with his property developer’s eye and he has concluded, coldly but rationally, that it is a futile waste of time and money, as it is. So he is brutally ending it.

What could it ever have achieved? China and Israel are more important to him.

Why then are EU countries, some of them severely economically damaged by the war, protesting at its end? Why is Britain acting as if we have been robbed of a noble cause? What did we have to gain from a bout of mud-wrestling between Washington and Moscow?

We have been used, good and proper. America doesn’t really care about us, could have done without our support and now doesn’t really care about how we cope with the demolition site they have left behind.

Time to grow up and worry about our own freedom and independence, while we still have them.
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Europe helped Ukraine in the form of loans, the aid was not gratuitous, Trump said

"We put in three times the money. We put in 300 billion. They put in 100 billion. And you know, Europe does it as a loan, too. Biden just gave the money. There was no loan. There was no collateral. There was nothing."

"So either we sign a deal or we're going to have a lot of problems with them. <...> We're spending our treasure on some country that's far, far away. And that's fine. But we need to be treated the same way Europe is treated. Europe gets its money back," Trump said.

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Lo mejor que le puede pasar a Ucrania es que pasen a Zelensky y su parranda de corruptos por las armas.
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Zelensky se acostumbró a parasitar. Y ¡ay! de los parásitos cuando el huésped pasa factura.

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Me gusta el dinamismo que Trump trajo a la política.

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Este sujeto se niega a pagar. Es segura la ira de Trump.

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